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Post by aoxo on Jan 20, 2013 14:04:01 GMT -5
I like the NFL partially guaranteed contracts (signing bonus) compared to the fully guaranteed NBA/MLB model. But when rookies have no choice where to go or how much they get paid, they shouldn't be under team control for 4-5 years.
The whole structure is ridiculous. And it pervades sports, where teams who have young players get praised for all the value they get from them. They're so smart!
I wish I could start a business and force top graduates to come work for me for pre determined salaries for the first 25 years of their careers (1/2!). I bet I'd be considered smart too.
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Post by aoxo on Jan 20, 2013 14:07:44 GMT -5
In fact, isn't the average career length in the NFL like 3.5 years? So shouldn't I be able to lock in next years MIT class in for the next 50 years?
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Post by aoxo on Jan 20, 2013 14:09:27 GMT -5
Also, if they get hurt on the job I can just cut their ass. And tell all of my customers it is their fault, so they get a ton of shit from everyone.
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Post by aoxo on Jan 20, 2013 14:21:49 GMT -5
And oh yeah, I get paid a huge salary, am allowed to prevent competition, and don't really contribute any value. It doesn't even matter if my company sucks year after year. I still get super rich.
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Post by aoxo on Jan 20, 2013 14:28:10 GMT -5
Abolish the amateur draft
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Post by bwwyyyy on Jan 20, 2013 15:17:25 GMT -5
I wish I could start a business and force... Force?
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Post by aoxo on Jan 20, 2013 15:24:22 GMT -5
I wish I could start a business and force... Force?Errr... shut up. Maybe force is too strong a word. But considering the monopoly power, the typical background for players, and what they are pushed to do in HS/college, there aren't a lot of options. Pushed to develop one set of skills to the exclusion of everything else from the time they are in middle school that has only one employer. But yeah, too strong.
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Post by aoxo on Jan 20, 2013 15:27:43 GMT -5
I guess, considering that even HS football is becoming a big business, how many years are players expected to earn almost exclusively for other people before they have even a shot at fair compensation?
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Post by bwwyyyy on Jan 20, 2013 16:16:20 GMT -5
Errr... shut up. Maybe force is too strong a word. But considering the monopoly power, the typical background for players, and what they are pushed to do in HS/college, there aren't a lot of options. Pushed to develop one set of skills to the exclusion of everything else from the time they are in middle school that has only one employer. But yeah, too strong. If professional athletes weren't so generally unlikable and seemingly committed to undermining the system that makes their prosperity possible, I'd tend to see it your way. But they are and they are, so F 'em. (Of course, none of this absolves the owners from being typically unlikable parasitic rich people, sucking on talent's milkshake, so F them too.)
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Post by vecseysbeard on Jan 20, 2013 18:26:40 GMT -5
Guys...PAT SHURMUR IS CHIP KELLYS OCCCCCCCCC!!!!!!
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Post by vecseysbeard on Jan 20, 2013 18:28:26 GMT -5
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Post by bwwyyyy on Jan 20, 2013 19:07:49 GMT -5
Did he just throw his penis?
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Post by e0 on Jan 20, 2013 19:09:30 GMT -5
Yes.
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Post by MMM on Jan 20, 2013 21:07:12 GMT -5
Hard to believe the NFC West has sent all 4 teams to the Super Bowl since 2001. Only division to do that.
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Post by JayAre on Jan 20, 2013 21:43:38 GMT -5
Seems arbitrary
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Post by bwwyyyy on Jan 20, 2013 21:52:20 GMT -5
Curse of the Moynahan en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_BradyBrady dated actress Bridget Moynahan from 2004 until late 2006.[92] On February 18, 2007, Moynahan confirmed to People magazine that she was more than three months pregnant with her and Brady's child.[92][93] Brady and Moynahan ended their relationship sometime in early December 2006, around the time Moynahan became pregnant.
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Brady began dating Brazilian supermodel Gisele Bündchen in December 2006, during Moynahan's pregnancy.
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Post by bwwyyyy on Jan 20, 2013 21:54:00 GMT -5
Joe Flacco & Colin Kaepernick
^2012's Best of the Best
Geez, give the rest of us a chance, Superstar QBs!!!
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Post by JayAre on Jan 20, 2013 22:03:41 GMT -5
Also, if they get hurt on the job I can just cut their ass. And tell all of my customers it is their fault, so they get a ton of shit from everyone. Now you're getting it! Also concussions are good for business but make sure you act like you aren't encouraging them.
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Post by aoxo on Jan 20, 2013 23:43:07 GMT -5
So yeah, Bernard Pollard. Amazing.
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Post by aoxo on Jan 21, 2013 0:10:32 GMT -5
Joe Flacco & Colin Kaepernick ^2012's Best of the Best Geez, give the rest of us a chance, Superstar QBs!!! Don't worry. We can always make an excuse that non-Superstar QBs are playing at Superstar level and beating the Superstar QBs who aren't playing at Superstar level. That just proves that it takes a Superstar QB or one playing at that level. Why are they playing at that level while the actual Superstar QB isn't? The opposing defenses? No, shut up. What are you? A goddamn moron or something?
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Post by aoxo on Jan 21, 2013 0:12:38 GMT -5
The fact that teams can win a Superbowl with a non-Superstar QB who is somehow inexplicably playing at a Superstar level means that you had damn well better have a Superstar QB if you want a shot. PROOF.
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Post by bwwyyyy on Jan 21, 2013 0:15:04 GMT -5
Why are they playing at that level while the actual Superstar QB isn't? The opposing defenses? No, shut up. What are you? A goddamn moron or something?
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Post by e0 on Jan 21, 2013 8:49:07 GMT -5
As I stated earlier this year, you're looking at such a degradation of the defenses in the league that we are reaching a point where the QB devaluation is going to auto-correct because shit defenses are going to allow good to above-average QBs to look SUPER DOOPER GOOD often to all the time.
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Post by bwwyyyy on Jan 21, 2013 10:13:19 GMT -5
^No.
Logically applying "your" own theory--Rule Changes! Arena-football! Elite QBz only!--those rule changes, the impact of which you along with so many others have always grossly exaggerated, apply to everyone equally. They help Joe Flaccoz as much as Aarong Rodgerz.
MFA: It's like the old "X is in trouble, because they're playing Y on turf today! Y's just going to be too fast for X!"
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Post by vecseysbeard on Jan 21, 2013 10:39:58 GMT -5
Can't we just say New England is a tad overrated and Baltimore was especially tired of them and just leave it at that before going into the whole QB discussion? Because this is more probable than anything else.
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Post by e0 on Jan 21, 2013 10:54:13 GMT -5
^No. Logically applying "your" own theory--Rule Changes! Arena-football! Elite QBz only!--those rule changes, the impact of which you along with so many others have always grossly exaggerated, apply to everyone equally. They help Joe Flaccoz as much as Aarong Rodgerz. MFA: It's like the old "X is in trouble, because they're playing Y on turf today! Y's just going to be too fast for X!" When it became clear this year how un-elite even the ELITE defenses had became I adapted my theory to the next step in the NFL's quest for suck is clearly a league where a bunch of Joe Flacco's become elite because... well.... gross.
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Post by bwwyyyy on Jan 21, 2013 11:01:51 GMT -5
Did I never post this upthread with the Rushing % stuff?
League Points scored 2002 = 10391 (Avg team/avg game = 20.29pts) League Points scored 2012 = 11651 (Avg team/avg game = 22.76pts)
A difference of 2.47pts per team, per game. (<--THE DIFF!)
Scoring defense rankings for teams with winning records in 2012 vs 2002:
SEA: 15.3 (1) vs. TB: 12.3 (1) SF: 17.1 (2) vs. PHI: 15.1 (2) CHI: 17.3 (3) vs. NYG 17.4 (3) DEN: 18.1 (4) vs. MIA: 18.8 (4) ATL: 18.7 (5) vs. OAK: 19.0 (6) CIN: 20.0 (8) vs. IND: 19.6 (7) NE: 20.7 (t9) vs. ATL: 19.6 (8) HOU: 20.7 (t9) vs. CLE(!): 20.0 (10) GB: 21.0 (11) vs. TEN: 20.3 (11) NYG: 21.5 (t12) vs. GB: 20.5 (12) BAL: 21.5 (t12) vs. NYJ: 21.0 (14) MIN: 21.8 (t14) vs. DEN: 21.5 (15) IND: 24.2 (21) vs. PIT: 21.6 (16) WAS: 24.3 (22) vs. NE: 21.6 (17) xxxxxxxxxxxxx vs. SF: 21.9 (18) xxxxxxxxxxxxx vs. NO: 24.3 (26)
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Post by bwwyyyy on Jan 21, 2013 11:07:44 GMT -5
But still, I do agree with you to a degree. I dagree with you.
SF's defense is a perfect example of one that seemingly should be more dominant than it is. How much of that has to do with them underachieving, and how much of that has to do with them just being in 2012...shrug.
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Post by bwwyyyy on Jan 21, 2013 11:13:49 GMT -5
Though, the Ravens' D only giving up 11ppg this postseason (kick return TDs excepted) points more in the direction of "underachieving SF defense," no? Against Luck, Manning, and Brady?
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Post by aoxo on Jan 21, 2013 11:22:03 GMT -5
Hey, are you ready for some real insight which will settle your debate once and for all?
THE TEAM WHOSE QB PLAYS BETTER WILL PROBABLY WIN.
Those are the FACTS of the NFL in 2012.
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